Hi -
Does anyone know if the Axle energy VPP will work in the free tier, or the premium tier ?
Ta - Dave.
For Axle to control your inverter they will need the Premium tier to be able to make API calls to your inverter.
Its not clear whether Axle will accept self-control of the export when there is a session on.
OK, thanks Geoffrey.
Well if it costs £5 a month for Premium, and there’s a guaranteed £10 a month min payment coming from Axle then that sways it for me.
Dave.
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It helps to offset it, but you are still paying ÂŁ5 per month for Premium.
I’ll find out in the next couple of days.
#inverters offline.
Yes. I have just received confirmation from Axle that the exact amount I was expecting has been credited to my account. Inverters were blocked from Internet access. I was in total control of export via HA automation.
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So just to clarify, you manually enabled the export yourself, using HA, at the same time slot that Axle would have done it normally via the API ? And it worked OK ?
Have I got that right ?
Dave.
Yes, I realise that. But I’d still be £5 a month up on the deal, providing Axle keep up their end of the bargain.
My situation is, the only thing that I really need Premium for, is Axle.
I’m at home a fair bit so the free local app access covers most of my needs, I can’t see there being much use for full access away from home. It would be nice, but its by no means essential.
I really don’t want to go to the hassle of putting together a HA system, and keeping it maintained if I can get away without it.
I do have the Android “Inverter” app so do you think I could run the next Axle session using the manual export control from my app, as you appear to have done using your HA system ?
Cheers - Dave.
My point is that you don’t “need” Premium in order to use Axle. You could be £10 per moth better off rather than £5.
To clarify. I connected my inverters to the portal only for the duration of the Axle on-boarding process, then blocked them.
I used the HA Axle integration to trigger an HA automation which notified me the day before, then took control of the export (and other things) at the appropriate times. Axle have credited the exact amount that I was expecting into my account.
I see no reason why you can’t control the export manually once you have on-boarded.
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Thanks. 
Looks promising then, I’ll just have to try it on the next grid event & see.
I’ll just have to remember to set it up first then de-set it afterwards.
Dave.
I sent an email to Givenergy software about the Axle integration a couple of weeks ago and have just had this reply from them -
Hi Dave,
Thanks for your email. At the moment, Axle uses an API key which customers provide to them for free - making use of our resources to make money, but without contributing anything to their running. Therefore at the moment it would require a Premium Tier subscription. However, we’re in negotiation with them at the moment to work out a commercial partnership which would be in all of our interests, so please watch this space for updates!
*Best, *
GivEnergy Software
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Axle have said much the same which sounds promising
Meanwhile if you don’t subscribe to the premium tier but still do the export at the right time, Axle will still pay you. They have confirmed this as well
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I had this email from Axle yesterday…
To our GivEnergy users,
Please find below an update from Axle Energy regarding the current GivEnergy
situation.
As many of you know, GivEnergy has gone into administration and they are
launching a subscription service for users to retain API access. We would like to
reassure you that you will not be removed from the Axle Energy VPP once this
subscription is launched.
The premium subscription is expected to launch within the month of May, with the
official date of the transition expected to be communicated by GivEnergy shortly.
As part of the transition, we may need to re-authenticate your devices. You will
receive further instructions about this from Axle within the next two weeks, before
the subscription is launched.
We'll be in touch before the subscription launches with more details.
Sincerely,
The Axle Energy team
Me too… ;-)
Great news, Axle will pay YOUR subs as well as the ÂŁ10pm.
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One problem I’m having with HA is that the local modbus connection is built on a protocol designed to connect only to one client. I am finding this connection to be very flaky, and I wonder if it’s because the inverter is talking both to GivEnergy Cloud and also to my GivEnergy app and to my GivTCP / Home Assistant automation. I wonder whether the whole system would become more reliable if I somehow constrained it to talk only to my local GivTCP service.
if I did that: Axle would fail to configure my device, but that’s fine: I could configure it myself (and maybe automate that somehow). but what I’m worried about is how would Axle know how much I exported? I assume it treats the GE cloud as authoritative on this, and I’d be not sending any data to GE cloud any more?
In your case you’ve disconnected from just Axle, which means that they can still read correct totals from GE cloud. so it makes sense that yours still works. I’m just wondering whether I can improve my reliability of local access by making the inverter connect only to my local GivTCP…
Hi Geoffrey,
A good news update for you (Thanks again for your help previously!)
Please see the email below from Axle around 20mins ago:
To our GivEnergy users,
We’re pleased to share that you will receive GivEnergy Premium free of charge by participating in Axle Energy’s VPP.
To activate this offer, the steps are simple:
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If you joined the VPP after 8th May 2026, you don’t need to do anything! GivEnergy Premium will be applied to your account
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If you joined before 8th May 2026, you will need to re-authenticate your device from your account page [click button below]
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Axle will then communicate to GivEnergy that you are a registered Axle user
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GivEnergy will then apply GivEnergy Premium to your GivEnergy account
We’re delighted that you can remain part of our VPP and we look forward to many more events with you!
To note, for the duration of this promotion, we have temporarily suspended our peer-to-peer referral rewards for GivEnergy devices (you are still able to refer users with other device types).
Sincerely,
The Axle Energy team
Wahey ! Every cloud etc…